tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post101478985743993997..comments2024-02-19T04:50:58.170-08:00Comments on Shuck and Jive: Let's Give 'Em HopeJohn Shuckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-11301148333288776872009-02-27T00:28:00.000-08:002009-02-27T00:28:00.000-08:00My parents will die believing I'm an abomination a...My parents will die believing I'm an abomination and their ultimate embarrassment, and I find that incredibly hurtful and sad.<BR/><BR/>Because of their prejudice, their unwillingness to see any other viewpoint but their narrow biblical one, and the shame they endure from having a son who's a fruitcake, they'll never change.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, I have no family. So you folks are my adopted family. You've got me whether you want me or not. ;-)Lee M. Davenporthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05414914592624225281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-45079882681023593102009-02-22T20:08:00.000-08:002009-02-22T20:08:00.000-08:00Buffy, I understand, and I am glad you aren't givi...Buffy, I understand, and I am glad you aren't giving up. I was thinking the same thing the other night after watching MILK - the same tired arguments are being brought out. But, it feels more like they are coming from a defensive posture, as opposed to the "that's just the way it is" position. <BR/><BR/>Progress is being made. Stay with the fight!Snadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04055786911610974637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-54331065903789033012009-02-22T15:53:00.000-08:002009-02-22T15:53:00.000-08:00I'm 40 and I only wish I were as optimistic as you...I'm 40 and I only wish I were as optimistic as you. I look back at the political and cultural environment while Harvey Milk was fighting and it was so eerily similar to today's. The lies they spread are nearly identical though thirty years have passed. We make one tiny step forward and the RRRW pushes us back two, three or more. For every law we get to protect our rights five states pass laws banning marriage, adoption and the like. It's just so daunting. <BR/><BR/>It doesn't mean I'm giving up--I'll never give up. But I'm definitely frustrated.Buffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09328034026300036704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-17709814992155987872009-02-21T17:28:00.000-08:002009-02-21T17:28:00.000-08:00I don't know how old you are, Buffy, but I'm pushi...I don't know how old you are, Buffy, but I'm pushing 50, and I expect it to happen in MY lifetime. Maybe late in my lifetime, but I'm certainly willing to hang around as long as I need to ;-).<BR/><BR/>As I look at the updates from the various presbyteries that are going "blue", I am more and more hopeful that all people will eventually be able to look past who others "love" in order to see that love. It doesn't matter if that love is expressed through same-sex marriage, gay adoption or the ministration of gay church leaders.<BR/><BR/>I am hopeful!Snadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04055786911610974637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-12033426133475773352009-02-21T14:41:00.000-08:002009-02-21T14:41:00.000-08:00Thank you for your efforts on behalf of LGBT youth...Thank you for your efforts on behalf of LGBT youth. It's true-they do need hope, or all is lost. <BR/><BR/>We're fighting hard for a day when they can look forward to marriage and family just like their straight peers. I don't imagine that will happen in my lifetime, but any progress that can be made toward that goal is precious.Buffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09328034026300036704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-68162618008289214642009-02-21T13:26:00.000-08:002009-02-21T13:26:00.000-08:00Woo hoo! Glad you made it to the meeting FC! Gr...Woo hoo! Glad you made it to the meeting FC! Great news from Greater Atlanta.John Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-5301941090445206212009-02-21T12:41:00.000-08:002009-02-21T12:41:00.000-08:00I'm sitting in Druid Hills Presbyterian in Atlanta...I'm sitting in Druid Hills Presbyterian in Atlanta at the meeting of the Greater Atlanta Presbytery.<BR/><BR/>GREATER ATLANTA JUST VOTED 243 IN FAVOR, 233 AGAINST ON 08-B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Flycandlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08599392875619723740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-51305538553126753092009-02-21T11:07:00.000-08:002009-02-21T11:07:00.000-08:00Thanks Sara,I am sorry for your daughter. Her sto...Thanks Sara,<BR/><BR/>I am sorry for your daughter. Her story is all to common I am afraid. Thanks for the comment. <BR/><BR/>Snad--And I am glad you insist on making us celebrate! : )<BR/><BR/>Celia, pax back at ya!John Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-34112926196982340412009-02-21T07:49:00.000-08:002009-02-21T07:49:00.000-08:00Thank you. Thank you for all the work you are doin...Thank you. Thank you for all the work you are doing in a place where it must be difficult to do it.<BR/><BR/>Thank you. There is hope.<BR/><BR/>Pax, C.Ceciliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10812791378130572065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-24509765425014893582009-02-21T06:15:00.000-08:002009-02-21T06:15:00.000-08:00It was a powerful and uplifting movie - I'm glad w...It was a powerful and uplifting movie - I'm glad we went. And I'm glad that we little PFLAGgers of NE TN can be a part of that hope.Snadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04055786911610974637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-87512826330733136562009-02-21T01:17:00.000-08:002009-02-21T01:17:00.000-08:00OMG! Tres Rios? I can't believe that. They've come...OMG! Tres Rios? I can't believe that. They've come a long way since I left in 1991. Santa Fe votes today. I'm not too concerned, there is some opposition, but I think the vocal majority will be for. I haven't heard about New Covenant (Houston), my other Presbytery. I think they could be split.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your support of the LGBT community. My daughter still wants nothing to do with church thanks to a youth director at our first church in Albuquerque. It wasn't Presbyterian. The pastor at my home church in Albuquerque now, is inclusive and supportive but it was too late, the damage was done. What she was told at 14 will stay with her the rest of her life, I'm afraid.Sarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08294206507900224989noreply@blogger.com