tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post3090553092271630423..comments2024-02-19T04:50:58.170-08:00Comments on Shuck and Jive: Getting ItJohn Shuckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-36487229877798003982008-08-11T11:46:00.000-07:002008-08-11T11:46:00.000-07:00I think they are helping to continue an atmosphere...<I>I think they are helping to continue an atmosphere of 'gay bashing' - in their lack of tolerance on this issue and some of the things said over the pulpit. I am not saying the church wants 'gay bashing' - but in the fact they want 'no gays' is pretty much where this line of thinking leads.</I><BR/><BR/>Sounds to me like you "got it." I don't think we have to agree or understand all the complexities of human life, including sexuality.<BR/><BR/>It is enough to know that when we bash gays verbally in the pulpit it leads to gays getting bashed physically in the streets.John Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-4938505216984883762008-08-11T09:23:00.000-07:002008-08-11T09:23:00.000-07:00I can admit I 'don't get it' - as in - I know I do...I can admit I 'don't get it' - as in - I know I don't truly understand the whole gay issue. That being said, they can hold that against me if they want - I will not hold anything against them. <BR/><BR/>I respect the gay community and always feel welcome in their community (to some degree - some female lesbians really hate men so this isn't always true about feeling welcome). I am not sure it is a sin or isn't - I just know they are people who get rejected by society and that ain't cool. My heart resides for them in that they face horrible things and we should be more merciful towards them - they have it fairly rough sometimes. <BR/><BR/>Where I am in 100% agreeance is int the churches use of language on this issue and what the church can do differently. I think they are helping to continue an atmosphere of 'gay bashing' - in their lack of tolerance on this issue and some of the things said over the pulpit. I am not saying the church wants 'gay bashing' - but in the fact they want 'no gays' is pretty much where this line of thinking leads. <BR/><BR/>I have asked myself what should be said in churches - and maybe nothing is more ideal than what it being said. The church is helping to sustain a culture of hate towards gay people - and if not hate - then misinformation and biases. Who the hell are they to cast these stones anyways?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-84859373692065104242008-08-10T20:54:00.000-07:002008-08-10T20:54:00.000-07:00Audrey: Thank you and my wish for strength for yo...Audrey: Thank you and my wish for strength for you in Knoxville.<BR/><BR/>Toshiba: I appreciate your voice, too!<BR/><BR/>Caroline: Thank you commenting and for sharing your heart on your blog. You said the following so well:<BR/><BR/><I>I hope that this tragedy we have recently experienced can be used as a forum for long-term love growth rather than a brief blip in life where, for a few weeks, Christians felt sorry for us. I hope many Christians will start to question what hate messages, or simply silences, may be occurring at their church.</I><BR/><BR/>Hear that, church?John Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-78554282094152667202008-08-10T11:29:00.000-07:002008-08-10T11:29:00.000-07:00As a UUer here in Knoxville I just want to say tha...As a UUer here in Knoxville I just want to say that I have appreciated all the support from the Christian Community, near and far. However, I appreciate most the support of those who "get it"-- as you seem to-- and get that this is more than saying kind words and "showing solidarity" in vigils... more than that, me (and most UUers, I would add) appreciate shows of solidarity that continue through social justice action, such as welcoming GLBT people into your own church community (as you have done). I sincerely appreciate this action, and the message behind it. I hope that this tragedy we have recently experienced can be used as a forum for long-term love growth rather than a brief blip in life where, for a few weeks, Christians felt sorry for us. I hope many Christians will start to question what hate messages, or simply silences, may be occurring at their church. This is a long ramble to say that I appreciate your comments and I hope people are urged, more and more in this, to step up and try to "get it"... to get each other in this process...Tennelina (Caroline)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17382519514537183328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-15532052610629892332008-08-10T04:39:00.000-07:002008-08-10T04:39:00.000-07:00I agree. We need and appreciate your voice John, t...I agree. We need and appreciate your voice John, thank you for your ministry.toshibahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16903355179592442483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-65464851516969914832008-08-10T04:31:00.000-07:002008-08-10T04:31:00.000-07:00I appreciate your comments. I like most your remi...I appreciate your comments. I like most your reminder to hang onto hope. Your strong voice is needed and appreciated.Audrey Connorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01426344570905385586noreply@blogger.com