tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post383245869249303971..comments2024-02-19T04:50:58.170-08:00Comments on Shuck and Jive: So They Call You a Conspiracy Theorist? It Could Be WorseJohn Shuckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-2731694580521930482010-09-07T12:42:28.802-07:002010-09-07T12:42:28.802-07:00Tony!
Thanks for the good words and thanks for th...Tony!<br /><br />Thanks for the good words and thanks for the song you sent via cd! Awesome!! <br /><br />The Lord is a Woman But Dresses Like a Man. : )<br /><br />You bring up a good point. <br /><br />False flags have been used in this country in the past to manipulate the people to an action they would not otherwise approve. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXw3jJ3021o#" rel="nofollow">Griffin's presentation</a> is helpful with that.John Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-61775460598506354002010-09-07T12:24:24.764-07:002010-09-07T12:24:24.764-07:00John,
Thanks for your thoughts and for hanging in...John,<br /><br />Thanks for your thoughts and for hanging in there with me, even though you are not convinced.<br /><br />I am going to keep plugging away! : )John Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-37141716750122602312010-09-07T12:20:59.469-07:002010-09-07T12:20:59.469-07:00Thanks, Captain.
We do need to keep asking questi...Thanks, Captain.<br /><br />We do need to keep asking questions.John Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-87009139544226841192010-09-07T11:18:26.283-07:002010-09-07T11:18:26.283-07:00John
I reviewed a number of articles on the "...John<br /><br />I reviewed a number of articles on the "peak oil" crises. Common sense tells us that oil is running out, a matter of concern, but not hysteria. I also do not find the 9/11 conspiracy theories convincing.<br /><br />The Iraq war will not assure us of a continuing supply of oil, if that was the intent. There are too many variables. Oil is a global commodity. It is irrelevant who buys or sells it. Iraq will sell to the highest bidder whether it be us, China, or anyone else. <br /><br />While have been busy in the Middle East, China has been pouring money into infrastructure and education. They lead the world in high speed trains and in their manufacture. Take a five hour train ride from Beijing to Shanghai, beats flying. They are now the second largest economy in the world. They are going to eat our lunch. John McNeesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18301421993866391399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-52431987782306387572010-09-07T09:40:18.748-07:002010-09-07T09:40:18.748-07:00Well, "truther" is a shout-down word use...Well, "truther" is a shout-down word used by Zionists to deflect from the fact that Israel is suspect in the attacks on 9/11.<br /><br />It's impossible to say exactly what went down on that day, but if there are lingering questions, there must be lingering answers.<br /><br />When Googling:<br /><br /><a href="http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/northwoods.html?q=northwoods.html" rel="nofollow">Operation Northwoods</a><br /><br /><a href="http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html?q=fiveisraelis.html" rel="nofollow">5 Israelis</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.newamericancentury.org/publicationsreports.htm" rel="nofollow">PNAC "New Pearl Harbor"</a><br /><br />Section V of Rebuilding America's Defenses, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", includes the sentence: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor" <br /><br /><br />Whatever happened, far too many questions have yet to be answered. And until they are, we should never stop asking.captainkonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04011881473365734763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-87575067692182567282010-09-07T03:29:56.330-07:002010-09-07T03:29:56.330-07:00Dear Snad and John,
How complex indeed! It is di...Dear Snad and John,<br /><br />How complex indeed! It is disheartening to think that our own government could do such a thing. But, then again, I’m still wondering about our own government involvement in the Kennedy assassination. It’s very ironic and disturbing to me that the JFK and Medgar Evers killings happened the same year. A fighter for civil rights for blacks, the murderer of Medgar Evers took place on 12 June 1963 in the town of Jackson Mississippi , just as President John F. Kennedy made his speech on the equality of men; white and black in America. Evers was assassinated with a shot in the back that pierced his body. Beckwith murdered Evers just outside his door, under the eyes of his wife and three children, he left behind. Byron De la Beckwith was finally convicted of Evers’ assassination but it was only after two trials were conducted to determine the guilt of the man in question. However, both times, the jury composed entirely of white men did not reach any verdict. However, the wife of Medgar Evers (Myrlie) did not despair and continued to fight for thirty years. So, in 1994 Beckwith was summoned to a new trial where he was tried by a jury composed of eight mixed-sex blacks and four whites. The State Attorney brought enough evidence to imprison Beckwith, including the fact that the killer had been a member of the Ku Klux Klan and that he had repeatedly boasted of the murder of Medgar Evers. Beckwith died in prison. <br /><br />My point in all of this is: For years the truth is not what it seems to be. But, won’t someday the truth set us free?<br /><br />I believe that someday the likes of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Carl Rove, and Donald Rumsfeld will also have to answer ... to someone. <br />Tony (Mike would never get this political...lol)Tony and Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04213766340490035354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-69824101613823429262010-09-06T22:37:31.613-07:002010-09-06T22:37:31.613-07:00Ah, the via positiva.
Kurt's got it and so do...Ah, the via positiva.<br /><br />Kurt's got it and so does Molly Ivins. You know this one:<br /><br /><i>"So keep fightin' for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't you forget to have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous, ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can produce. And when you get through kickin' ass and celebratin' the sheer joy of a good fight, be sure to tell those who come after how much fun it was."</i><br /><br />This is fun telling the truth! We laugh at these fools who think they can lie and get away with it forever. <br /><br />I appreciate what you are saying because it is going to help me with future posts on this. <br /><br />This is a deeply spiritual issue. The facts are one thing. Once we face that it is pretty easy to see that this was a false flag. <br /><br />The real task is the spiritual issue of what it means to be an American and then to have all our myths about that shattered and then to find ourselves again as human beings.John Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-5682886643783622972010-09-06T21:14:28.775-07:002010-09-06T21:14:28.775-07:00Well, I guess it's time to invoke Vonnegut aga...Well, I guess it's time to invoke Vonnegut again. He said once, that when things get really bad, you have to decide whether to laugh or cry. By choosing to laugh, he said, it was easier to clean up and get on with things. <br /><br />I guess this is where the <i>via positiva</i> comes in, eh? It's either that or go stark raving insane, and frankly, that would throw a real wrench into my clock.Snadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04055786911610974637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-31457616970317684332010-09-06T14:24:50.920-07:002010-09-06T14:24:50.920-07:00There are a couple of things, intellectual accepta...There are a couple of things, intellectual acceptance of evidence and emotional acceptance. <br /><br />Throughout history emperors have done great evil. They often do it because they think it is a necessary evil. Cheney, Rumsfield, PNAC, the CIA, all think they are doing what is necessary and ultimately good.<br /><br />I don't think coordinating 9/11 was good. I don't appreciate that they did it for my benefit. The evidence and motivation has convinced me that this event was an inside job. It doesn't take that many people to pull it off. I believe they are very competent. <br /><br />Over the course of the week I will point out resources to read and watch that are convincing (at least to me). <br /><br />Should we care? I want to know what is true, regardless of how painful it is and regardless of whether I can do anything about it (except point to it). <br /><br />I cannot live with myself if I know the evils of the government and do not point them out. Our Muslim neighbors are being falsely accused. That isn't right.<br /><br />It's funny really, as I am accused on this blog of not having faith, etc. The accusation may be accurate for what it is worth.<br /><br />But, it is my perception of my faith that drives me toward this. I follow a guy who was executed by legitimate state-sponsored terrorism. It happened 2000 years ago. It happens today. That terrorism happens all over this planet by the U.S. government. <br /><br />Just because I don't want to believe it, doesn't mean it isn't true. <br /><br />I don't know what anyone else should do. I know my role. That is to search for and tell the truth to the best of my ability in my sphere of influence. <br /><br />But in order to keep some level of sanity in this, I think it also important for me to be involved in something, some movement for peace, justice, human rights, decency. I try to do that.<br /><br />My faith also says that the executed Jesus is risen. Not literally, but alive in us, in the search, in the telling, in the action for justice, truth, and compassion. That is what I really believe. In the end, that truth is more powerful than Empire's lies.John Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-26017997099654565172010-09-06T13:51:37.380-07:002010-09-06T13:51:37.380-07:00Hmmm. I struggle with this idea of a conspiracy o...Hmmm. I struggle with this idea of a conspiracy of government to "create" 9/11. Part of me says it is impossible for a government to do something SO horrible, SO cynical, SO evil - but then I think of the Holocaust, the genocide in Rwanda, and the carpet bombing of Tokyo and TWO <i>f@&%ing</i> nuclear bombs and I have to cross that excuse off the list.<br /><br />Then I say to myself - how can a government that is obviously incompetent in SO many ways be SO competent as to pull off something so complex, and cover their tracks SO well? And then I have to think about who is in charge, what their agenda is, and how psychopathic they are in achieving their goals - think New American Century - and I have to wonder. And I recall Grover Norquist's goal of making government so small that it could be drowned in a bathtub. What better way for its citizenry to want that drowning - TO ASSIST IN IT THANK YOU TEA PARTY! - than to make it appear so <i>f@&%ing</i> incompetent that you WANT to kill it? Another cross-off.<br /><br />I still don't believe the US government <i>planned and executed</i> the terrorist attacks on its people on September 11, 2001. At least I still don't <i>want</i> to believe it. What I do find quite possible is that they knew, if they bankrolled the right people and turned the attention of other right people, eventually <i>something</i> would happen - most likely they knew that what did happen would happen, without knowing the exact date, time, and exact players. That much I can let myself believe. And that is certainly enough.<br /><br />But what do you do with that? As much as I would like to, I don't have the money, the education, the skills to be accepted as a permanent citizen in another country. And what country would that be? Canada? Australia? New Zealand? Those are about the only ones that haven't done anything horrendous <i>yet</i>. And even if I did, I'm not ready to leave family here. And I love the physical place that is this continent. What variety! What beauty! That I should give it up because of these assholes and their agenda just makes me FUME!<br /><br />And while some sort of armed insurrection may be inevitable, I doubt I'm going to be in the front lines of that army. It's gonna have to get a lot worse before I find the motivation to go down that road.<br /><br />So what do we do with this knowledge that most people don't want to believe either, and those who know it's true (because they own it) laugh at because they hold the strings and the secret archives with the deals and the coin to make it happen as often as they need to when it is in their best interests?<br /><br />What do we do, dear friend?Snadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04055786911610974637noreply@blogger.com