tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post4460784445524196184..comments2024-02-19T04:50:58.170-08:00Comments on Shuck and Jive: Heresy HuntingJohn Shuckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-50578231460920212552008-10-11T16:40:00.001-07:002008-10-11T16:40:00.001-07:00Perhaps "objectivity" itself is the thing that is ...Perhaps "objectivity" itself is the thing that is so galling for those who approach the topic with subjective reverence and intentional bias.<BR/><BR/>Just a thought.David R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13902714786448599023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-65122958155972857752008-10-11T16:40:00.000-07:002008-10-11T16:40:00.000-07:00Thanks, One. This whole "way to darkness" thing i...Thanks, One. <BR/><BR/>This whole "way to darkness" thing is so pervasive in Christianity. This is beyond academic interest. There is a real fear that anything outside the orthodox path is evil and of the devil. <BR/><BR/>It is the gift that orthodoxy keeps on giving.John Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-16913325437277780142008-10-11T16:38:00.000-07:002008-10-11T16:38:00.000-07:00It is only recently that these works are getting p...It is only recently that these works are getting published for the general public. Hal Taussig who came to our JSOR has a forthcoming book on the text, Thunder, Perfect Mind. His book will reveal a text that is quite different from what we might expect.<BR/><BR/>Certainly there is academic interest especially as a window to exploration of Christian origins. <BR/><BR/>Others are finding these works spiritually interesting for a variety of reasons.John Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-42877780644647690252008-10-11T13:01:00.000-07:002008-10-11T13:01:00.000-07:00**these scholars, though bright and sincere, are n...**these scholars, though bright and sincere, are not merely wrong; they are misled. They are oblivious to the fact that they are being led down this path by the powers of darkness."**<BR/><BR/>What troubles me about statements like these is that I'm unsure where to find any objectivity. How does the scholar conclude that what the other scholars investigate is influenced by the powers of darkness? The only method I can see that is used in determining what is and is not tainted with the powers of darkness is a method that almost "begs the question." One source of material is used to judge another, thus making that first source the measuring stick. It's not giving each source an "equal opportunity." So how can the other source be approached without any bias? <BR/><BR/>It's the same reservations I have when seeing a biblical scholar say that one knows the Bible is true by the inner witness of the Holy Spirit -- regardless of any external evidence to the contrary. The "evidence" used is no longer evidence that everyone can access. The measuring stick becomes entirely subjective, rather than comparing the Gospel of John and the Gospel of Thomas side by side.OneSmallStephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08189124855157679020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-85243418029054959082008-10-11T11:37:00.000-07:002008-10-11T11:37:00.000-07:00But, still this find was decades ago. I'm wonderin...But, still this find was decades ago. I'm wondering why this huge interest today. I mean you can't turn around in the bookstore without seeing everything from the DaVini Code to the Jesus Mysteries.<BR/><BR/>Do you have any ideas? What has drawn your focus so very strongly?<BR/><BR/>Hey, off to go horseback riding now. It is absolutely beautiful out here with the fall colors at their peak. :)Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17018475588969974790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-73842012670206972892008-10-11T11:20:00.000-07:002008-10-11T11:20:00.000-07:00I would think there is interest because of the Nag...I would think there is interest because of the Nag Hammadi library. A pretty big find.John Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-83344616386258357582008-10-11T11:00:00.000-07:002008-10-11T11:00:00.000-07:00I do have to wonder why there is this strong inter...I do have to wonder why there is this strong interest in gnosticism today. In reading some of the popular books out there, it's almost as if folks have never heard of the gnostics before in their lives.<BR/><BR/>And, yet, the early church fathers spoke of the gnostics, and even mentioned material such as the Gospel of Peter, or the Gospel of Thomas by name.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I'm definitely able to see why this material did not find it's way into the recognized canon, and why gnosticism as a whole was eventually regarded as heretical.<BR/><BR/>But, what do you think? Could there be a larger agenda, and purpose behind all of this, just beyond hearing something different, and academic interest? I'm not sure.Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17018475588969974790noreply@blogger.com