tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post742765784947071016..comments2024-02-19T04:50:58.170-08:00Comments on Shuck and Jive: Response to Huckabee ReportJohn Shuckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-9269372011914842682009-07-29T14:47:31.129-07:002009-07-29T14:47:31.129-07:00Exactly. The "I got mine, suckers" atti...Exactly. The "I got mine, suckers" attitude. Not surprising, unfortunately, it's only a natural human response. It's sad though that people can't see past the end of their own noses and think about someone else once in a while.<br /><br />So much for "family values" from the right.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274395216929104919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-30551451149738255852009-07-29T14:13:21.854-07:002009-07-29T14:13:21.854-07:00Alan, you are right in that people who have someth...Alan, you are right in that people who have something that works are reluctant to see it changed, and often get this sense that they somehow deserve it more than people who don't have it.<br /><br />One of the people we met today in Bristol drove with his son from Nashville for the soul purpose of protesting any and every action Obama makes. This guy lost his job (he blames the EPA) and has lost his insurance because he can't afford the COBRA payments (you hear that, Glenn Beck?), yet he still would have the heath care reform bill utterly defeated. He also felt that poor people don't deserve coverage if they can't pay for it, and that other Americans shouldn't have to pay for their coverage through taxes.<br /><br />Another fellow we encountered said that he is certain he will die if the health care reform bill is passed. He has been turned down for insurance coverage because of pre-existing conditions, yet thinks our current health care system is just ducky, thank you. When I mentioned that the US was ranked 37th for health care quality by the WHO, he said "I believe the WHO about as much as I can see them".<br /><br />I was without health care for many years. When I finally got coverage, I went to the dentist and had 12 cavities filled and 3 root canals done. That was, as you might imagine, quite the ordeal. If I had had coverage throughout those "lost years", things would have been a lot better, and a lot cheaper for everyone. I have been very lucky to have health care coverage most of my life. We were extremely lucky that, when my husband was laid off, we were able to pay $800 a month for 18 months of COBRA (you hear that, Glenn Beck?) until he could find a job that provided health care. If we had lost coverage, I might not be able to get it back, since my blood pressure is 5 points outside normal range, which would qualify me as having a pre-existing condition. <br /><br />We walk on egg shells with this current health care system. All it takes is for someone at the end of an actuary table coming out of a shareholders' meeting to toss anyone out of their coverage because they have the audacity to get sick.<br /><br />Health care in this country has had an overhaul since it was established in 1947. And the critics say we are rushing it. I don't think so.Snadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04055786911610974637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-12351341958575089082009-07-29T11:07:50.519-07:002009-07-29T11:07:50.519-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-76276367298838734162009-07-29T08:50:57.722-07:002009-07-29T08:50:57.722-07:00One thing I have greatly enjoyed about this health...One thing I have greatly enjoyed about this health care debate is all the learned opinion that I've heard. I particularly appreciate how objective those opinions are. And I know they're objective because each and every one of those opinions that I have seen, heard, or read, on the news, radio, blogs, etc., was given by someone with healthcare insurance.<br /><br />Want to know about healthcare for the uninsured? Ask the talking heads on CNN, MSNBC, and Fox Noise, who have excellent company sponsored healthcare. Ask Senators and Congressmen who have publicly sponsored healthcare.<br /><br />Who could possibly be more objective and more qualified to pontificate about the uninsured than someone who doesn't know anyone who is uninsured?<br /><br />Feh. It's like asking a priest for marriage counseling. ;)Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274395216929104919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-36832055797436575512009-07-29T07:46:38.450-07:002009-07-29T07:46:38.450-07:00Well, Alan, he obviously hates the countries that ...Well, Alan, he obviously hates the countries that aren't America, too.<br /><br />And he apparently hates the poor.<br /><br />Well, hell! It seems Joel hates <i>everyone</i>!Snadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04055786911610974637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-82480769826021208462009-07-29T06:52:39.000-07:002009-07-29T06:52:39.000-07:00"I don't want their health care system he..."I don't want their health care system here!"<br /><br />Because we'd hate to see our infant mortality go *down*.<br /><br />Why do you hate babies, Joel?Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274395216929104919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-86970601152987566372009-07-29T06:52:04.112-07:002009-07-29T06:52:04.112-07:00"Well, the government has absolutely messed u..."Well, the government has absolutely messed up anything else its gotten its hands on."<br /><br />Has it? Has it really messed up *everything*?<br /><br />Like the US Military?<br /><br />Why do you hate America, Joel?Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274395216929104919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-51855567038780422822009-07-28T19:38:29.227-07:002009-07-28T19:38:29.227-07:00The issue is not quality of healthcare but access ...The issue is not quality of healthcare but access to healthcare.<br /><br />Obama was on NPR today. He quoted a woman who told him:<br /><br />"I don't want socialized medicine. And don't take away my Medicare!"<br /><br />Git R dun.John Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-48244538465716617232009-07-28T19:35:31.272-07:002009-07-28T19:35:31.272-07:00Oh, well, since Joel witnessed one bad experience,...Oh, well, since Joel witnessed one bad experience, I suppose that makes all the sense in the world to scrap health care reform and let 40 million people just wing it. <br /><br />That just about says it all!Snadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04055786911610974637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-36281659093603368912009-07-28T17:34:51.702-07:002009-07-28T17:34:51.702-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-34123063871316342962009-07-28T17:07:15.732-07:002009-07-28T17:07:15.732-07:00Perhaps you don't, Joel. But I want the 40 mi...Perhaps you don't, Joel. But I want the 40 million+ uninsured/underinsured in this country to have health care. And I'll bet they do, too.<br /><br />And incidentally, if you were (un)fortunate enough to have had a medical emergency in one of those countries, you would probably be grateful for their miserable health care.Snadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04055786911610974637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-73127433205853328812009-07-28T16:39:34.443-07:002009-07-28T16:39:34.443-07:00I've travelled enough to know that many of the...I've travelled enough to know that many of these countries are beautiful with wonderful people and exciting cultures....but I don't want their health care system here!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-54330042387599249142009-07-28T16:09:40.263-07:002009-07-28T16:09:40.263-07:00Yes. Those miserable countries.Yes. Those miserable countries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-45936987095396330302009-07-28T15:36:26.567-07:002009-07-28T15:36:26.567-07:00A yes, Joel. You mean as miserable as the 36 coun...A yes, Joel. You mean as miserable as the 36 countries that rank above the US in health care?<br /><br />Here's the skinny, from WHO:<br />1 France<br />2 Italy<br />3 San Marino<br />4 Andorra<br />5 Malta<br />6 Singapore<br />7 Spain<br />8 Oman<br />9 Austria<br />10 Japan<br />11 Norway<br />12 Portugal<br />13 Monaco<br />14 Greece<br />15 Iceland<br />16 Luxembourg<br />17 Netherlands<br />18 United Kingdom<br />19 Ireland<br />20 Switzerland<br />21 Belgium<br />22 Colombia<br />23 Sweden<br />24 Cyprus<br />25 Germany<br />26 Saudi Arabia<br />27 United Arab Emirates<br />28 Israel<br />29 Morocco<br />30 Canada<br />31 Finland<br />32 Australia<br />33 Chile<br />34 Denmark<br />35 Dominica<br />36 Costa Rica<br /><b>37 United States of America</b><br />38 SloveniaSnadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04055786911610974637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-55242986301682930862009-07-28T14:00:55.362-07:002009-07-28T14:00:55.362-07:00Well, the government has absolutely messed up anyt...Well, the government has absolutely messed up anything else its gotten its hands on...might as well pitch in health care so that we can be on the same miserable level as the rest of the socialists in this world. A joke: a liberal is someone who can gaze at a housing slum in communist Cuba and say, with stars in their eyes, "Wow! This is just what we need in America!" lol.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-9766697080763830532009-07-28T12:48:54.923-07:002009-07-28T12:48:54.923-07:00Aw geez. You're gonna make Christina cry agai...Aw geez. You're gonna make Christina cry again.<br /><br />Thanks, John!Snadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04055786911610974637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30648257.post-57437536655763806932009-07-28T12:46:21.431-07:002009-07-28T12:46:21.431-07:00amen.amen.Drew Tatuskohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12344192935890766744noreply@blogger.com