Shuck and Jive


Friday, December 10, 2010

SPLC: Gays Under Attack


In today's mail I received the latest issue of the Intelligence Report published by the Southern Poverty Law Center.




The cover story is Under Attack: Statistics Reflect Grim Reality: Gays Remain The Most Targeted Minority In America.



Responding to the wave of teen suicides — including, most dramatically, that of 18-year-old Tyler Clementi, a Rutgers University student who leaped off the George Washington Bridge in New York City in September — anti-gay leaders instead blamed those who sought to protect students from bullying.

Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association said gay rights activists “pressure these students to declare a disordered sexual preference when they’re too young to know better, [so] they share some culpability.” Family Research Council President Tony Perkins, a key critic of anti-bullying programs, said gay activists were “exploiting these tragedies to push their agenda.” He said that gay kids may know “intuitively” that their desires are “abnormal” and that the claim, pushed by gay activists, that they can’t change “may create a sense of despair that can lead to suicide.” Matt Barber of Liberty Counsel said those activists want “to use the tragedies to increase pressure on the real victims: Christians.”
Can you believe that? Christians are the "real victims" according to these anti-gay zealots. You will also want to read
  1. Ten Anti-Gay Myths Debunked
  2. Anti-Gay Movement Fuels Hate Violence
  3. 18 Anti-Gay Groups and Their Propaganda
  4. Anti-Gay Hate Crimes: Doing the Math
  5. Jamaica's Anti-Gay "Murder Message" Carries Violent Message
Thanks to the SPLC for this issue.

The best way to counter this is to stand up and be counted.

In Northeast Tennessee and Southwest Virginia please support:
  1. PFLAG Tri-Cities
  2. PFLAG Abingdon/Washington County Virginia
  3. Tennessee Equality Project (Tri-Cities)
  4. Northeast Tennessee Pride
  5. LGBTieS (ETSU)
  6. Open Door Society (Tusculum)

Tuesday, December 07, 2010

Holston!?!? ....... lost.... But!

We gave it a college try and we improved our record. However, amendment A was defeated in Holston Presbytery today, 27-45. Last time the vote was 24-68. Five spoke in favor and five against before the time was up. It wasn't just that 23 no votes from last time didn't show up today. A lot of folks who would have voted in favor didn't show up either. We have had some weather. That affirmative voting percentage did improve remarkably.

I am confident that Amendment A will pass nationwide. So I am taking all the good karma from this improvement at Holston and sending it on to the other presbyteries! We are a conservative presbytery and it was good to see people get up and speak eloquently in favor of amendment A. Everyone knows the writing is on the wall.

I did get to deliver my "leaked" speech. Special thanks to the other speakers, Shane, Pat, Deven, and Jim. You were awesome!

Carrying on...

Monday, December 06, 2010

My Speech Has Been Leaked!

Inspired by Wikileaks, here is the text of my speech that I will deliver tomorrow when Holston Presbytery votes on Amendment A.

If I leak my own speech will I have to execute myself if captured?

I am John Shuck, pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Elizabethton. I am speaking in favor of amendment A.

At First Presbyterian we welcome all people. We welcome all people as individuals. And when we choose elders and deacons we choose individuals. We do not choose or decide not to choose categories of people.

We do not ordain (nor decide not to ordain) communists, cigarette smokers, abortion providers, men, women, divorced persons, biblical literalists, moonshiners, Democrats, Republicans, grumpy people, or happy people. We evaluate for service Pat and Rebecca and Beth and Dwain. That is how Presbyterians do things. That is how we all do it.

If we don't think someone is qualified to teach Sunday School, lead the choir, run the youth program, or be a deacon or an elder, we do not ask that individual to do so. No session needs a prohibition in the Book of Order to do that. The same is true for a presbytery. If you don't think someone should be installed as a minister in your presbytery, you vote no. A governing body is guided by scripture and the confessions (ultimately the Holy Spirit) to evaluate individuals for particular service.

The problem for these past three decades is that a simple majority has instituted and enforced a binding policy of categorical prohibition on one class of individuals for the whole church. This has resulted in expensive court cases, a loss of qualified candidates, and loss of members frustrated that we cannot stop fighting over this. We will continue to have problems until we allow charity on non-essentials.

My congregation, as part of its ministry of social justice, advocates in word and deed on behalf of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people. In so doing we feel we are faithful to Jesus Christ, Scripture, and the Confessions.

I don't expect anyone to agree with me. I don't expect to change anyone's mind. There is no consensus across the church or in this presbytery on what "the Bible says". No matter how certain we may feel about our interpretation of scripture regarding this issue, we must agree to the obvious fact that there is no consensus. People in good conscience disagree.

All Amendment 10-A asks is to let the church's polity be consistent with its theology. That is charity on non-essentials, respect for individual conscience, and a return to historic, Presbyterian principles. Let the governing bodies determine who may serve particular ordained ministries based on their evaluation of the character, faith and gifts of a person guided by Scripture and the Confessions.

It is the Presbyterian way that has served us well for over 250 years.

Let's stop fighting, make the change, and get on with ministry.
My polity professor at seminary, Bill Chapman, says that the proposed text is the "middle way".

Former stated clerk of the General Assembly, Clifton Kirkpatrick, is in favor of Amendment A, too.


Sunday, December 05, 2010

Outside the Beltway: A Sermon

Outside the Beltway
John Shuck

First Presbyterian Church
Elizabethton, Tennessee

December 5th, 2010
Second Sunday of Advent


Gospel of Jesus 1:1-15

Robert Funk and the Jesus Seminar, The Gospel of Jesus (Santa Rosa: Polebridge Press, 1999), p. 11, 13. Mark 1:4-6, 15; Matthew 3:1-2, 4-10; Luke 3:7-15

John the Baptizer appeared in the wilderness calling for baptism and a change of heart that lead to forgiveness of sins. And everyone from the Judean countryside and all the residents of Jerusalem streamed out to him and got baptized by him in the Jordan River, admitting their sins. And John wore a mantle made of camel hair and had a leather belt around his waist and lived on locusts and raw honey.

John would call out: “Change your ways because Heaven’s imperial rule is closing in.”

John would say to the crowds that came out to get baptized by him, “You slimy bastards! Who warned you to flee from the impending doom? Well then, start producing fruits suitable for a change of heart, and don’t even start saying to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham for our father.’ Let me tell you, God can raise up children Abraham right out of these rocks. Even now the axe is aimed at the root of the trees. So every tree not producing choice fruit gets cut down and tossed into the fire.”

The crowds would ask him, “So what should we do?”

And he would tell them, “Whoever has two shirts should share with someone who has none; whoever has food should do the same.”

Toll collectors also came to get baptized, and they would ask him, “Teacher, what should we do?”

He told them, “Charge nothing above the official rates.”

Soldiers also asked him, “And what about us?”

And he said to them, “No more shakedowns! No more frame-ups either! And be satisfied with your pay.”

The people were filled with expectation and everyone was trying to figure out whether John might be the Anointed.

John’s answer was the same to everyone: “Someone more powerful than I will succeed me, whose sandal straps I am not fit to bend down and untie. I have been baptizing you with water, but he will baptize you with holy spirit.”

What is John doing in the wilderness?

What sort of baptism is he performing?

Is it for personal ritual piety or is he preparing people for a revolt?

Dominic Crossan in his book, Jesus: A Revolutionary Biography helps us get a handle on John the Baptist and what he was doing. Crossan writes that the
“Wilderness is not just sand and the Jordan is not just water”. P. 46.
Water could be found in many places. John wasn’t simply baptizing with water. He was baptizing with water from the Jordan.

The Wilderness and the Jordan River were powerful symbols for the Jewish people. It was in the wilderness that according to Torah the Israelites spent forty years wandering with Moses. It was a time of preparation, of penitence, of purification, of accounting for sins in order to prepare them for the Promised Land.

After these 40 years, from this Wilderness, across the Jordan and into the Promised Land Joshua marched the Israelites. They circled Jericho with trumpets until the walls came a tumblin’ down.

That is the story. It is fiction, to be sure, but it is their fiction. It is how they defined themselves. In the time of John the Baptist, it isn’t the Canaanites who need to be defeated but the Romans. The Romans with their armies are in the Promised Land. John the Baptist is preparing the crowds. He is creating to use Crossan’s phrase, “ticking apocalyptic time-bombs” to go back into the Promised Land and await God who is to come with fire and apocalyptic judgment separating wheat from chaff, the good from the bad.

John the Baptist is an apocalyptic prophet in the stream of the Hebrew prophets before him, announcing the Empire of God that is closing in. Josephus, the Jewish historian who wrote his work in the first century around the same time the New Testament was written, writes about John:
Herod had put him [John, surnamed the Baptist] to death, though he was a good man and had exhorted the Jews to lead righteous lives, to practice justice towards their fellows and piety towards God, and so doing to join in baptism. In his view this was a necessary preliminary if baptism was to be acceptable to God. They must not employ it to gain pardon for whatever sins they committed, but as a consecration of the body implying that the soul was already thoroughly cleansed by right behavior.
That seems pretty mild, doesn’t it? Why would Herod put anyone to death for baptizing people for sins or for exhorting people to live good pious lives? Josephus gives it away as he continues:
When others too joined the crowds about him, because they were aroused to the highest degree by his sermons, Herod became alarmed. Eloquence that had so great an effect on mankind might lead to some form of sedition, for it looked as if they would be guided by John in everything that they did. Herod decided therefore that it would be much better to strike first and be rid of him before his work led to an uprising, than to await for an upheaval, get involved in a difficult situation and see his mistake….John, because of Herod’s suspicious, was brought in chains to Machaerus, and there put to death. (Crossan, Jesus, pp. 33-4)
Now we have words like “crowds, aroused, sedition, uprising, upheaval”. That doesn’t sound like harmless piety any longer.

But Josephus gives no details or explanations.

The Gospels seem also to want to whitewash John the Baptist.

I think that both John the Baptist and Jesus who was baptized by John, who accepted John’s vision, were both about resisting Empire and preparing people to resist Empire. The writers of the Gospels who told their stories and who told them after the disaster of the Jewish Revolt and massacre at the hands of the Romans had to be careful how they told this story. They concealed as they revealed. They couldn’t be seen as overtly anti-Roman.

They paint John the Baptist as little more than a forerunner to Jesus who then becomes a supernatural figure who dies for our sins, our personal peccadilloes. Once the prophets go mainstream and become tools for Empire, they lose their teeth. They no longer are able to call Empire to task. They are no longer able to prepare people to resist Empire.

We are here now in the second decade of the 21st century. We are the inheritors of Christianity. We are "raking through the ashes of Christendom" (via), looking for symbols, figures, narratives, mythologies, and rituals to help us face the challenges of our time.

John the Baptist, from the wilderness, outside the beltway, off the grid, eating locusts and wild honey, might be a helpful symbol for us. He speaks from a vantage point of critique. He can see from the outside what we on the inside cannot see. He instructs us. He shows us what Empire is doing, the destruction it is causing, the waste it produces, and the death it causes. He baptizes us, redefining us, providing us with a role to play and the spiritual strength to play it. He sends us back in to be leaven, to witness to a different way of living, to speak the truth.

There are many modern day John the Baptists. On my list (and you may have a list of your own) include Matthew Fox, Bill McKibben, Michael Ruppert, David Ray Griffin, Joanna Macy, Dianne Dumanoski, Richard Heinberg, Naomi Wolf, Naomi Klein, Vandana Shiva, Walter Wink, all telling us as John the Baptist, did 2000 years ago, “the axe is at the root of the tree.”

Simply put: Empire is unjust. It is unsustainable. It is changing. Be prepared.

John gets specific. He speaks about economic justice.

Crowds ask him,
“What should we do?”
He tells them,
“Whoever has two shirts should share with someone who has none; whoever has food should do the same.”
The principles of corporatism that have taken hold of our elected leadership have taken what John the Baptist has said and twisted it. They think John the Baptist really meant this:
“Whoever has two shirts should find someone who has one and take it too.”
Those are the folks who want to lower taxes for the wealthy while the two million people whose unemployment benefits are running out right now, this week, at Christmas, can go ahead and starve. What? Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?

To the toll collectors who made their living by extortion and collaboration with empire:
“Charge nothing above the official rates.”
To the soldiers he said:
“No more shakedowns! No more frame-ups either! And be satisfied with your pay.”
All of those statements have to do with abuse of power. He wasn’t speaking just to individuals but to an entire system of injustice and inequity embedded in Roman occupation and oppressive taxation of the poorest and most vulnerable.

How do you begin to overcome that?
You baptize individuals.
You wake folks up so they can see what is happening.
You unleash creativity within them so they can resist.
You start conversations.

This past Thursday, Dr. Matthew Johnson of Every Church A Peace Church spoke from this pulpit. He preached a sermon then did question and answer about Every Church a Peace Church. This is Dr. Johnson from the website:
Every Church A Peace Church is committed to the vision of PAXION (peace action) as the method to bring about a just social order, which entails the elimination of militarism (and its pernicious spawn of rabid nationalism masquerading as patriotism) poverty, racism in all its guises, materialism and gender bias. It is our firm conviction that these institutional realities are the structural harbingers of the violence we witness daily in our homes and streets, as well as that perpetrated by our and other governments the world over. This sequela of injustice, greed and hatred has worn the cloak of religious sanctification for centuries. ECAPC is determined to help strip it away by revealing to our local communities, nation and our world the will of God for a humble, just and merciful humanity.

We believe that if you are not actively engaged in overcoming these realities you are in complicity with an oppressive status quo. Jesus of Nazareth was no such conformist. He was a creative non-conformist. Our goal is to help summon the church to its larger call to shake off the apathy grown in the soil of a jaded consumerism, cultivated in a spiritual climate of ignorance and isolationism and take up his cross and follow him. Now is the time for us to respond with head and heart to the challenges before us. The challenges at hand provide the greatest opportunities for a true witness to the living God and her care for a morally depleted and violent world. Join us in our efforts. Become a part of God’s new movement to forge ahead in the realization of the age old vision of a beloved community.
Dr. Matthew Johnson is another to add to the list of John the Baptist types. When he was here he talked about the importance of overcoming our isolation, of connecting with one another, even as we take on particular issues. The work of PFLAG is related to the work of United Religions Initiative is related to the Alternative Giving is related to Appalachia Service Project is related to the Shepherd’s Inn is related to Green Interfaith Network and everything else I haven’t mentioned. We are all in this together.

There is much in the Christian tradition that I don’t mind letting go. As we rake through Christendom's ashes, there is much I don't mind leaving in the ash heap.

But John the Baptist I want to keep. He is the wild man from the wilderness who calls it as he sees it and wakes us up and gives us a job to do.

There is no whining in the Empire of Heaven.
No moping and complaining about how others don’t get it right.
Instead you repent of sin which simply means to me that we admit we are not infallible or as righteous as we think we are.

If we are down on ourselves we repent of thinking that way too.
We aren’t as fallible or as unrighteous as we think we are.
We are human beings in all of its mud and beauty.

We take the plunge in the water of humanity, dry ourselves off and get to work.
No work is too small.
No job is too big.
We do what we find before us to do.

We have no idea what the future will hold.
We need not be afraid.
Just awake.
There is no need to feel guilt and shame for our past nor fear our future.
We are forgiven.
We are loved.


It has been said that some of the best work done for the kingdom of God was done by people who weren’t feeling well that day.

I like that.

We don’t need to wait to have it together to do the work we have the passion to do.

I will give Reinhold Niebuhr (yet another John the Baptist figure) the last word:
Nothing worth doing is completed in our lifetime;
therefore, we are saved by hope.

Nothing true or beautiful or good makes complete sense in any immediate context of history;
therefore, we are saved by faith.

Nothing we do, however virtuous, can be accomplished alone;
therefore, we are saved by love.

No virtuous act is quite as virtuous from the standpoint of our friend or foe as from our own;
therefore, we are saved by the final form of love, which is forgiveness.

Friday, December 03, 2010

Holston Votes December 7th


My presbytery votes on the amendments (including Amendment A) next Tuesday. We put up a page about it on our congregation's website.

On that page you'll find
Amendment A is likely to pass this year (although probably not in my presbytery). But I think it will pass. Whether it does or doesn't will make little difference to my congregation.



We are More Light, inclusive, and we embody full inclusiveness.



So I am happy every two years getting up before my presbytery and bearing witness to the Gospel's call to do what Jesus would do.

Some are tired of the argument and of revisiting this same amendment again and again. The best solution to end this would be to vote in favor of amendment A.


It is the only thing that will work with a divided church.
  • Charity on non-essentials.
  • We ordain individuals not categories of people.
  • Governing bodies are in the best position to decide their own candidates' sense of call.
You know, historic Presbyterian principles.

Because as long as there are court cases (can we ordain Lisa Larges already?!!??!) there will be those who will vote to remove this bad law as it binds the freedom of conscience on sisters and brothers on an issue that is non-essential.

It does not matter how strongly you believe you are right about what "the Bible says". It doesn't matter. I believe I am right, too. There is no consensus. The only answer in that situation is to respect the freedom of conscience of the other.

But, oh well, vote it down if you like.

We'll be back.

Test the Waters!


If you have been visiting our church (or even if you haven't) and would like to find out a little bit more about us, come Test the Waters on
Saturday, December 11th at ten a.m.

From 10 am until 1 pm you will have a chance to find out more about our congregation, meet some fine folks, tour the building, and enjoy a free lunch courtesy of our deacons.


Childcare is provided.

We pride ourselves on being an inclusive, free-thinking congregation. I think you'll like us.

If you think you might like to officially unite with us, we will be welcoming new members on January 9th. If you would like to know more about that, contact me by email or give me a call at the church office at 543-7737.

If you can RSVP regarding Test the Waters on December 11th, that will help us in determining how much food to prepare. Just email or call!

Wednesday, December 01, 2010

Rapture? Nashville's Ready!


I do want to remind all ladies and men who dress like ladies to wear appropriate rapture wear on May 21st, 2011.


While you are going up to see your lord, you don't want the unfortunates who are left behind to look up and see...uh...your...well...you know.




As you know we had a rapture scare on July 7th, 2007 (7/7/07). I followed the situation quite closely as you may recall.

Check here for a refresher.

But this could be the real one.

Really.

The Rapture.

I feel it comin'.

Nashville is ready.

NASHVILLE (UPI) -- Billboards in Nashville and eight other cities around the United States advertise The Rapture, saying it will take place on May 21, 2011.

The advertisements were arranged by fans of Family Radio Inc., and the date is the one worked out by the Christian network's founder, Harold Camping, The (Nashville) Tennessean reports. They say "He Is Coming Again" and warn there is less than six months to get into a state of grace.

Allison Warden, 29, of Raleigh, N.C., who was in charge of the billboard campaign in Nashville, would not say who supplied the funding. Other cities include Louisville, St. Louis, Detroit, Little Rock, Omaha, Kansas City, Fort Wayne, Ind., and Bridgeport, Conn.

Camping calculated his date based on the belief there would be 7,000 years between Noah's Flood, dated at May 21, 4990 B.C., and the Rapture, when faithful Christians are taken up into heaven.

There have been numerous predictions of the Second Coming. William Miller, founder of the Seventh-Day Adventists, predicted it would take place in 1843, an event that became known as the Great Disappointment.

The Adventists have become more cautious.

"The Bible says no one knows the day or the hour," said the Rev. Fred Fuller of Madison Campus Seventh-day Adventist Church near Nashville. "I don't believe that date-setting or the scare tactic of an immediate date is a biblical approach."
Forty billboards all over Nashville have been warning Nashvillians to stop their sinning. I sure hope they do. Nashville is a very sinful place. I'll bet the whole blessed city will be left behind.

Count on Shuck and Jive for more reports as the day draws nigh.

I just bet you didn't know that Noah's flood happened on May 21, 4990 B.C. Not everyone knows that. You also might not know that after the ark landed, Noah got piss drunk, passed out naked in his tent, cursed his grandson and started slavery.

Good times.

Here's your billboard.

Blame Bill

Monday, November 29, 2010

Thanks, Wikileaks...


Update: Hmmm. I am going to backpedal a bit on wikileaks. There is a lot of buzz out there that needs checking. Like this from Sott.Net Wiki-Leaks Serves Israeli Agenda of Demonizing Iran.
But the Wiki-leaks documents tell much more than arbitrary killing in wars of conquest, they also provide support for the continuation and expansion of those wars, most notably to Iran and Pakistan.
I don't like this story at all. That sounds too much like "Saddam has WMD". Who are we supposed to trust on that? I am now suspicious. I am going to watch and wait.

Wikileaks is in the news.

This is in today's Johnson City Press.

From Democracy Now!

Read about Wikileaks.

Follow Wikileaks on Twitter.

Wikileaks on Facebook.

Keep leaking my friends.

And keep suspicious of those who leak.


Thursday, November 25, 2010

Meaning of Life, Part 63


If the only prayer you ever say in your entire life is thank you, it will be enough.

--Meister Eckhart



Happy Thanksgiving!