Shuck and Jive

Thursday, December 04, 2008

Rick War(monger)ren Speaks for Jesus

Check this post from Why Won't God Heal Amputees.

Rick Warren is supposedly the nice, normal evangelical. He, you remember, was the one that interviewed Obama and McCain in regards to their faith. Apparently, he is running for America's preacher.

Well, count me out of his church. He is a war-mongering fundamentalist. He is bad news. Sean Hannity loves him, of course. Hannity wants to "take out" Ahmadinejad and looks to Pastor Rick for wisdom. Rick thinks that is a good idea. According to the Bible, you cannot negotiate with "evil-doers."
HANNITY: Am I advocating something dark, evil or something righteous [by saying we should kill Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad]?

WARREN: Well, actually, the Bible says that evil cannot be negotiated with. It has to just be stopped. And I believe…

HANNITY: By force?

WARREN: Well, if necessary. In fact, that is the legitimate role of government. The Bible says that God puts government on earth to punish evildoers. Not good-doers. Evildoers.
Which government did "God put on Earth?" Canada? Yugoslavia? Iran? The United States? All of them? Some of them? Maybe God put the Iranian government on Earth to punish evildoers, like George W. Bush. That is what many Muslim fundamentalists believe.

Hannity and Warren are cut from the same hijab as the Muslim fundamentalists. Different government, different holy book, but the same religion--the religion of self-righteous, paranoid, extremist violence.

Here is the clip:


  1. Oh by the way, did you get my email inviting you to the holiday party at our place on the 20th? If you didn't let me know and I'll send it again.

  2. He's getting as bad a Hagee, and I didn't think that was possible. Someone needs to beat him over the head with his own Bible.

    Hey Monk- I didn't get my invite!

  3. Yes, of course. The role of government has now been cleasrly defined:

    1) Stop Teh Gay from marrying
    2) Assassinate heads of state that we don't like

    Add to that the rheir role as consort/concubine/whore for corporate interests and you have the holy trinity of government! Thank g-d for Hannity and Warren, for they shall lead us out of the wilderness.

  4. I saw that too. My comment was that he is apparently misreading everything in the bible. Apparently he was referring to Romans 13. My bit is here.

  5. wow. i listened to the rest of it, and its even more assinine and absurd than i'd thought.

    i hate how when conservatives talk about killing people, they sometimes talk about what is worth dying for. that's a load, i'm sorry. the conversation is about what is worth *murdering* for. keep it straight. rick warren and sean hannity are welcome to die for whatever they want. they are not welcome to murder for whatever they want.

    i hate these euphemisms. "are you justified in killing the intruder?" "i'm justified in defending my family." answer the question, rick. if you're saying we should start opening fire in our homes and executing our foes gangland-style, at least have the courage to be honest about it.

  6. Whenever the drums start beating for war the same analogy is trotted out:

    Q: "Would you kill an intruder out to hurt your family?"

    A: Well, I would defend my family. Duh.

    Both gravely nod in agreement as if that has anything to do with the foreign policy issue at hand:

    "We gotta blow the f___ outta whomever the warmonger in charge wants to blow the f_____ outta next. And the Bible says it is right."

    We need our country and our religion back from these and I rarely use this word: heretics.

  7. A recent study at Harvard showed that rats forced to watch FOX News, epsecially Sean Hannity developed an extraordinary incidence of brain cell death. If the rats were also forced to listen to Rush Limbaugh they engaged in self-mutilation and canabilism.

    Of course we all suspected this. Fox News kills brain cells.

  8. I wonder if there will be a new chapter on God's approval of pre-emptive war in the next edition of "The Purpose Driven Life".

  9. I highly recommend Robert Price's response to a Purpose Driven Life. It is called A Reason Driven Life.

    More than just a response to Warren, he dismantles fundamentalism. It is funny, insightful, and helpful.